Hi guys,

It's been a long-ish time since I last did any skinning (in January I think) however I recently got the 'urge' to skin again so for the last few evenings I've been building a template for the P-40N.
When I was drawing this up I came across some big warping and mapping issues (which are carried over from the stock E and M I believe?) and as this is the first time I've skinned the P-40 (or a mod a/c at that) I would like to get the benefit of your guy's opinion; any tips, tricks, hints or thoughts in general would be greatly appreciated.






As you can see this is still very much a w.i.p; there's plenty more weathering to do and I am yet to do any paint chipping. Also the mech/internals are from the stock M void so I will redo those as well.

Cheers,

HB

P.S. I'm going out of town tomorrow morning so I won't be able to work on this untill later in the week or maybe even next weekend, and I apologize in advance if I seem tardy in responding to your posts as I won't have any internet access while away.

Team Daidalos will release new P-40 models in patch 4.12, so maybe it is better to wait with the template till the new models are released. The old skins will no longer work with the new models.

Here is the quote from TD:

And because this question may raise up: No - the old skins will not match anymore. The decision was made, because the old mapping was awfull. So this model got a full new mapping - no shared parts (like half of lower side mirrored) anymore.

And here the link to the P-40 screenshots for those who haven't seen them:
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=31724

Hi HB, looking great man. colours are Olive Drab 41 with Medium Green 'splotching' uppersurfaces with Netral Grey 43 undersides according to 'Combat Colours 3'. This book shows 'endless' camo-schemes for the 'N' version; green, sand, all yellow for a trainer and bare metal to name a few. Also 'Dutch Profile' nrs 10 & 11have a lot of (Dutch) scheme's. Looking forward for the finished product.

Hi guys,

@Juri_JS: Thanks for the heads-up on the new model, I wasn't aware of that and it's great to see that they're doing it as the mapping really is awfull. I'll probably push ahead and do skins for the existing mod N anyway as there's no telling how long it'll be before TD realease the next patch and when/if the modders will make new mod F/K/L/N versions based on them. Still, I'll be looking forward to the new E (and M?) models as there're some early schemes I'd really like to skin

@henkypenky: Cheers mate, glad you like it. I must admit that I had forgotten about the green sploching so thanks for the reminder. Out of curiosity, do your books mention what colour the rear cockpit/deck (the part that's under all that perspex) was painted? I've seen a colour photo of an Aleutians based N which had the deck painted OD but from what I can see all profiles and plastic models have it painted interior green. Looking at b/w photos I can't really tell what the colour is...
As for paint schemes I intend to put out some RNZAF versions first then do any that take my fancy for any airforce such as US/RAAF/NEI and VVS if they had them.

Cheers,

HB

I can understand Team Daidalos' wish to improve the mapping of a number of the original IL2 aircraft ,but each time its done it leads to a cull of first rate skins. For example dozens of exellent Ju88 skins are no longer useable and, understandably, few skinners revise their back catalogue to fit the new mapping.
If we have to keep making and keeping copies of each version of the game they will soon eat up hard -drive space.

Wingco.

Daidalos I feel is a real irritant to IL2 these days.
That is just my humble opinion. Not saying I'm right. Every time a new patch surfaces it is a mighty amount of work that needs to be done Most of the time the aircraft like the P47 are ignored and we end up getting a Gumforumple 690 T9.. Something really needed right?

Honestly i say this all is getting much to spread out in my eyes. Patches and more patches, mods and modpacks, versions and compatibilities etc. Impossible to keep any overview. Not to speak from permanent needs to adapt or build new templates and overwork missions/campaigns. Apart from this team daidalos should limit it's efforts to the really important things. I'm still missing i. e. realistic weapon loadaouts for the Fw190A-8 i.e droptank options. No arabic style buildings for northern africa etc..
Even a windsock which was/is present even on the smallest airfields isn't available amongst the stationary objects.
I don't really care for a new 3Dmodel of the P40.
It wasn't that bad compared with others (check the stuka!) and consequences are once more a lot of wellmade existing skins are useless afterwards.

ATB
Armin

umpf - no P40 old skins working with 4.12? oh no ... the same shit like with the Ju88 ... if this is going on, with version 4.19 all old skins will be useless

And it would not be possible to reassign the mapping to match the old skins?

It would be cumbersome to do, if possible, also not know.

... since I don't really know for sure what kind of freedom of speech prevails here at A&A I'll shut up regarding what I think about the DT policy from patch 4.10 onwards ...

I am fed up getting censored and threatened to be banned when I express what I think (and know ...)

If you want to know what I (and other guys, read Lutz's reply on the last page)) think, just read here from MKubani's (DT staff) post :

http://www.checksix-forums.com/showthread.php?t=175784&page=4