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11 years agoFri Feb 22 2013, 10:20amMain AdminIn Japo Publishing "Focke Wilf D9 caouflage and markings" pt. 2 is the famous Dora 13 from Franz G?tz with its destinctive paint job described. I think it?s a very famous bird and often shown, so that the description of it?s paint job is interesting for the people
I?ve made some screenshots to show how it was painted:
First the factory painting (with some minor errors and glitches from me but nothing important) in RLM 76/81/82
in field it was painted with blotches of RLM 82 and 81 on the fuselage and wild stripes on the wings, looking like this:
with the markings and stuff the result looks like this:
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AdminInteresting indeed. I don't know much at all about LW cammo, so I'm curious if there's a reason why the factory would use a light colour on the upper surfaces? And why just the wings and not the fuselage?
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Main AdminInteresting questions. The Mimetal factory is known for this particular paint schemes with the high contrast colours on the upper wings. At the end of the war some other manufactors form the Focke Wulf company used it also.
I think there are more than one reason for it. The different facories used different colours because of the supply sitation. Focke Wulf itself didn?t most likely use the RLM 81 other factories did. From the end of 1944 the under wings weren?t painted to quicken the assembling process and to spare colours/ressources. Also many experiments were done with differnt camo schemes and in the very last days of the war the factories simply used the colours which were still in stock.
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AdminAhhhh, I see, cheers mate
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Level 1All of that is true, and Mimetal was one of the first factories to discontinue the grays in 44 once stocks were depleted and along with Erla they started using Defensive colors RLM 81/82/83/76 and or unidentified Sky or nothing at all as Detlef has already said.
I have seen Gotz's aircraft when it's home was at the Champlin Air Museum in Tucson Arizona on two occasions.
The second time I walked in and was shocked to see two guys sanding and they had removed most all the paint and it was sitting in this room all bare metal. I couldn't believe they had done this. They told my friend and myself that
Champlin had finally sold it to the big Museum in Washington State and before sending it, it would be repainted in Defensive Colors. Look online and see how crappy the new scheme is. It used to look like it was on the front line with the original scheme.
I think the reason I was so upset was the original scheme was in pretty damn good shape. Have a look at the original and the new scheme and let me know what you guys think. I do believe that three or four of us could have done a much better job.
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Main Adminthe new scheme is the one with the bright green spinner i guess? that is the worst for me, this colourized spinner ... welcome to Disneyland
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Level 1Absolutely.
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Level 3Over restoration is one of the great sins of many museums I'm afraid, and it seems to apply to all mechanical artifacts, from locomotives to tanks, cars and farm machinery. These are invariably re-machined, repainted and rebuilt to far higher standards than the original manufacturers could afford. In the process much ,if not all, of their historical value is lost; evidence of the original assembly techniques, paints and paint colours/finishes, in-use mods, repairs and patches all disappear leaving little more than a refurbished replica of little value to future researchers. There is no excuse for this vandalism in the 21st century, If a museum cannot explain to its public why a seventy year old combat aircraft looks tired and worn and engage them in the romance of its real story then they should only collect factory-fresh modern items.
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Level 1Very well said.
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